with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?
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The rotation of positions in the congregation was implemented at the same time as the elder arrangement came in - i.e. at the start of the 1973 Service Year.
It did not last for very long, though. From memory, the first position to be made non-rotational was that of congregation secretary. That happened fairly quickly, well before the 1970s were out - something to do with the congregation requiring a "fixed address" for all its correspondence.
· if religions were immune to division.
· if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.
· if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.
....... and if some of us (myself included) are not just totally "Religioned Out"!
- which is maybe just a more polite version of having had a good, old fashioned "Gutsfull".
today at the service group the elder leading couldn't figure out which was which.
he was trying to convince us that the memorial was at the new moon.
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Well the WTS always liked to say that it required "no special abilities" in order to qualify as an elder!
last night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.
which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".
i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.
"We wont need doctors or lawyers after armageddon, but we WILL need carpenters and plumbers!!".
Further proof the bloody fool doesn't know what he is talking about!
Construction activities also require the services of para-professionals such as quantity surveyors, drafting technicians and survey technicians, as well as professionals such as architects, structural engineers, civil engineers and town planners (these are cited as examples only - the list is by no means an exhaustive one).
All these professions together contribute a much different set of skills than that which can possibly be provided by even somebody holding an advanced trade qualification.
For a few brief years during the "quickbuild" kingdom hall era of the late 1980s and early nineties, it seemed like the WTS had finally woken up to that one. If so, then the likes of this bright spark has just as quickly forgotten!
last night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.
which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".
i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.
They know how important professionals are to their org. They use them all the time.
Too right they do - and always have done!
As people would express it down in this part of the world "They ought to be shot with a ball of their own $h#t!"
lately i have been studying some basic christology and jesus in the old testament and why first christians believed jesus was god in the flesh.
really interesting stuff.
i am not really sure if i fully understand it but i do now realize why pastors go to university and bible school for a number of years and also how their beliefs are not just based on a few verses that can be edited in the nwt.
Now my question here is when you were in , did you understand the incredibly complex and twisted explanations of the WTS or did those briefcase full of books just make you sleep better at night.
As I said earlier, there was a time when I thought that I did.
(And we all know what Thought did!)
lately i have been studying some basic christology and jesus in the old testament and why first christians believed jesus was god in the flesh.
really interesting stuff.
i am not really sure if i fully understand it but i do now realize why pastors go to university and bible school for a number of years and also how their beliefs are not just based on a few verses that can be edited in the nwt.
Joe Grundy
The 'unanimity of beliefs' of the 'first christians' seems to me to be a myth,
I think you just nailed it!
That is why councils such as that held in Nicea in AD 325 were convened - i.e. to try and establish some common ground.
"all people in the world are currently considered enemies of god" gee i wonder where some poeple get the idea that we are an extremist organization.. " jehovahs chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!
" in what reality is contraction and downsizing moving forward?.
"it used to be that if a congregation reached 150 publishers we would split into 2 congregations now if we have 2 congs.
It has been nearly 25 years since I last attended a kingdom hall during a CO's visit. It sure does not sound like I have missed much!
lately i have been studying some basic christology and jesus in the old testament and why first christians believed jesus was god in the flesh.
really interesting stuff.
i am not really sure if i fully understand it but i do now realize why pastors go to university and bible school for a number of years and also how their beliefs are not just based on a few verses that can be edited in the nwt.
B. When you were in , did you think or ever think you understood the bamboozle.
There actually was a time when I reckoned that I did fully understand the whole piece about the trinity:
- but that was when I had only heard the WTS's version of things.
At that stage, I had read everything I could get my hands on that the WTS had written about this matter (heavily laced, as it was, with selected quotations from Alexander Hislop's The Two Babylons). Little did I then realise that the concept of the trinity was something fiercely disputed over a period of several centuries during the early Christian era - and definitely not something to be fully comprehended from an eight second TV sound bite (or similar)!
These days, I identify with the sentiment expressed by Steve2
I personally could give a tinker's cuss whether the God of the Bible is one, two or three in one.
Bloody good one!
why does watchtower say that the 'world-wide preaching work' occurs in x amount of lands, not countries?
well, i have a theory.
hear me out.
LUHE
- by Crikey, you may just have a point there, too!
